If I skip a day of washing my hair, even if I do a water-only wash that day, I get pimples. 1-3 new pimples form for every day skipped. This is not psoriasis and it is not dandruff - it's definitely pimples as they look like the ones on my face and there is no flakey or dry skin accompanying them. I seem to have very acne-prone skin in general - at age 31 I still get pimples on my face and occasionally shoulders, but for some reason the ones on my scalp bother me more (I always manage to break them open running my fingnails over my scalp and then they bleed). The ones on my scalp ARE preventable - just by washing every day (if I do this religiously I only get one or two every few months).
I even saw a dermatologist about my acne a few years back. His solution was to put me on antibiotics for a very long time and all that accomplished was to reduce them slightly but not eliminate them. I gave up after about 2 years because I didn't think the idea of being on antibiotics constantly was good (I've always thought of them as more of an emergency measure, not to be abused - the world does not need more antibiotic-resistant bacteria!). The pimples on my scalp seem to be caused by the grease blocking up pores so the idea of waiting through a greaseball detox period scares the heck out of me - I'm afraid that by the end of it my scalp would be one massive bleeding wound.
Things that I have tried:
- dry shampoo with cornstarch (created gummy mess as the cornstarch mixed with the grease and refused to comb back out)
- lavendar tea rinse (smelled nice but did not lessen grease or prevent pimples)
- rosemary tea rinse (same)
- tea tree oil massaged into scalp after hair dried (same)
- apple cider vinegar rinse (did not prevent pimples OR smell nice! reduced grease slightly over water only but not much.)
- baking soda rinse + ACV rinse (stripped my hair and made it feel like straw. was SHOCKED that people consider this less harsh than shampoo. maybe I need a weaker solution (I used 1c water plus, uh, some. I didn't measure, just sprinkled a little in). applied conditioner to hair the same day so I don't actually know if it would have prevented pimples had I waited a day)
- wooden-tooth brush to distribute scalp oil (doesn't remove enough oil to eliminate pimpling and, damn, I just don't have the patience to brush my hair that much)
- conditioner-only (reduces time it takes to wash my hair, but still needs to be done daily or I get pimples)
So, as of this writing I am conditioner-only. I haven't actually used shampoo on my hair in three weeks. I alternate between Max Green Alchemy scalp rescue conditioner and Avalon Organics tea-tree mint treatment conditioner, both of which are all-vegetarian no-harsh-chemicals earthy-crunchy brands (the latter seems to work a little better on my scalp but the former works better on the length of my hair and I love love love the smell - it's like lemongrass - so I can't pick just one). I sometimes use ShiKai color-reflect conditioner on just the length (never the scalp) but mostly that's because I have some I need to use up and when that is gone I won't buy more (it's all natural too but it seems like it would be too strong for my scalp and it contains dimethicone).
I was shocked to find that there was NO transition period with CO! I just switched to using conditioner on my scalp instead of shampoo on my scalp and, voila, my hair is still clean and happy! The conditioner absorbs the scalp oil and dirt and allows it to rinse out! I do find that it looks and feels slightly greasier than with my old shampoo routine, presumably because the conditioner contains oils itself that are being deposited, but it is such a light shiny oil that I don't mind at all. It does not seem to build up - the level of this oil is the same it was after my first CO wash three weeks ago. I have cut my shower time in half and the hairdye in my hair is lasting longer (I can tell because the water running off my head when I rinse isn't bright purple). This is much progress! It's funny - I always thought CO was just for curly-girls which is why I never tried it before but my hair is stick straight and loving it (that's my hair in the icon).
However, I still can't skip even a single day of washing without getting pimples and this bugs me. Has anyone else here had this problem? Or am I just a freak? Is there any hope of me ever being able to switch to true no-poo or will I have to do daily CO for the rest of my life?
July 12 2007, 21:24:20 UTC 4 years ago
I got scalp pimples because I had washed my hair the day before, not because I hadn't.
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July 13 2007, 04:01:47 UTC 4 years ago
The pimples were bad the first few days, but I didn't get any new ones after that, and the others healed in the usual time.
July 12 2007, 21:39:52 UTC 4 years ago
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July 12 2007, 22:51:11 UTC 4 years ago
Are you rinsing thoroughly with CO? That's such a common problem. Remember that conditioner is so much thicker than shampoo, and leaving any residue can cause scalp problems. It's better to rinse way too much than too little. Also, make sure you are really covering your scalp. I get best results when I make sure my scalp is slippery with conditioner. And the best, most cleansing conditioners for CO usually are light ones with one or more fatty alcohols (most often Cetearyl Alcohol and Cetyl Alcohol) near the top of the ingredients. The acne may be because your scalp isn't getting cleansed enough, even if the root hairs are.
July 12 2007, 23:18:36 UTC 4 years ago
It has to be removing SOME of the sebum though, or I would have three weeks worth of buildup accumulated! And I don't.
Are you rinsing thoroughly with CO?
No, I don't rinse thorougly because if I rinse all the conditioner out of my hair until it feels "clean" then it as if I never used conditioner in the first place - the length tangles. I've learned over years of practice what level of "slightly slimy" the length of my hair needs to feel like for it to behave. If I need to rinse my scalp "clean" then maybe I need to apply the length conditioner separately after rinsing the scalp conditioner thoroughly out. But then I'm right back to my 2-step process using as much water as I did when I used both shampoo and conditioner! Hmm. Well maybe I'll try this next, since 10min every 2 days would be the same amount of water as 5min every day and would make me hopeful of being able to transition to even less than that.
Also, make sure you are really covering your scalp
That I'm definitely doing. I figured out I needed to dilute the conditioner with water in order to get it to spread over my whole scalp and apply separate globs to the top, back, and sides (wheras with shampoo I could just apply on top and count on the lather to distribute it around the rest of my head).
The acne may be because your scalp isn't getting cleansed enough
Well, like I said, as long as I do it every day it is! It's just not enough to last more than one day :P
July 12 2007, 23:39:15 UTC 4 years ago
I always have to use a second conditioner on my length. I haven't found any conditioner that both cleans enough and conditions enough. If you're diluting the conditioner, you might not be getting enough of the cleansing parts of it to your scalp. Have you tried it undiluted and still had the problem? I just use really super runny cheap conditioners, but if "natural" matters to you, you might not be able to go that route.
If your scalp acne ever clears up, 'scritching' with a fine-toothed, pointy natural comb (I use a dollar store wood comb) might help it from coming back. I have to do that every few days or I start getting zits. But I wouldn't recommend trying it until after your acne's under control.
July 13 2007, 14:49:00 UTC 4 years ago
I really doubt I've diluted the conditioner so much that it's no longer cleansing - like I can still hold the bottle upside-down and it doesn't run towards the neck of the bottle unless I shake it - it was super-thick to start with. (both the MGA and the Aubrey). I'm probably still working with 2/3 conditioner 1/3 water, though I don't know exact proportions since I've basically been adding water as I use the product so the bottle stays "full". I figure when it gets down to slightly-runny I'll stop adding water. Nice thing about this is that even though it's an expensive-ish conditioner it will stretch to more uses :)
Natural matters to me mainly because I figured it would be less likely to irritate my scalp and make matters worse. Which I suppose is silly - afterall poison-ivy is a plant, so there's no magic formula that says plants = no irritation :)
Anyway, I will try the two-step conditioner process this morning and see how that goes. Thanks for the advice!
July 13 2007, 16:25:22 UTC 4 years ago
I'd be concered about too much dilution even if it is that thick, because of the types of conditioners you're using. I haven't seen a single Aubrey conditioner with any of what I consider to be cleansing ingredients; Avalon Organics have very low levels of them, so low that I can't even get them to clean properly undiluted. And the Avalon Organics have 'cones now, too, which can be bothersome for CO if they build up on the scalp.
Well, good luck! I can't imagine growing my hair so long if my scalp gave me so many problems; I'm far too lazy. :)
July 13 2007, 22:01:46 UTC 4 years ago
damnit I really hate when you find a product you like and then the company changes the formulation :P
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July 13 2007, 01:45:21 UTC 4 years ago
Maybe you could try an aspirin-and-water wash? Apparently the aspirin dissolves easily in water if you get a (relatively) uncoated sort, and is kind of gritty so you could use that to exfoliate your scalp a bit.