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Split ends/breakage
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digitizedwords wrote in no_poo
Hello all,
I am new to this community, so this question may have been addressed before. If that's the case, I'm sorry!

Anyways, I have been no-poo for about two months now. Overall, it's going really great. Here are my concerns though, hopefully some of you could help me out! :)


-My hair still gets quite greasy/oily in between washes, and I'm just wondering if my regimen might have anything to do with that. I'm afraid to go more than three days without washing it with a Baking Soda/Water mix because of how oily it is. I even use Batiste Dry Shampoo in between washes but my hair still feels.. gross. I have a VERY oily complexion, so I'm not sure if this has anything to do with it.

-Before starting no-poo, my hair was relatively healthy. Aside from getting super oily after 1 day and having to wash it every single day, my ends looked pretty darn great! Some split ends, but nothing major at all. Well, now my hair has started getting A LOT more split ends.. I have never seen the ends of my hair look like this before. I also have TONS of those little white dots/weak spots, where if you pull at the hair it just breaks off right there. I had them before.. but no where near the degree of how bad they are now. And this isn't something that I noticed as soon as I started no-poo. It's something that has progressively gotten worse as I have continued with the no-poo regimen. Oh, and my last hair cut was right before I stopped washing with shampoo.. so that's not the problem.


Maybe I'm using too much Baking Soda? Is this a normal result of using too much BS? I ONLY apply it to my roots, but maybe just from it running down my ends it is still stripping them? I don't know, this is all speculation. I use 1 tbsp (it might be a little more.. I kind of wing it) to 1 cup of water. And then I use about 1 tbsp (again, probably a little more than 1 tbsp) white vinegar to 1 cup water.

Overall I am very happy with how no-poo has been working out for me. My hair is definitely shinier and softer.. my fly-away's have calmed down and I haven't had as much frizziness. But I really would like to be able to go more than 2 days without washing with BS/WV.
Maybe I should try just rinsing with water in between washes? I tried this once before when I was first starting no-poo and it was absolutely horrible. My hair felt and looked incredibly disgusting. And that made me feel gross as a whole.

And the split ends/breakage is really starting to concern me.. I NEVER blow-dry my hair, and it's once in an extremely rare blue moon that I even straighten it. I don't towel dry.. nothing. I try and brush it with a boar bristle brush before bed and in the morning to spread the sebum down my hair. My hair also gets super tangled throughout the day.. once I brush it, it feels sooo much softer. I mean it's a pretty big difference from before to after. Could this be causing some of the breakage too though?

Thanks so much in advance!

Someone commented about applying the BS/water mixture (1 TBS to 1 cup water) to dry hair (roots/scalp only) and rubbing it in throughly then rinse with water and finishing off with an apple cider vinegar/water rinse (1 or 2 TBS to 1 cup water). This has really worked for me!

Something else which wowed me was using Brita water (we have hard water). I noticed a huge difference trying out that routine. *looking into getting a quality shower filter

I've bee No Poo 4 months now and I generally wash my hair with a silicone-free conditioner (Giovanni) every 2-3 days and only use BS/ACV on super greasy days. I've also been slathering on Almond oil in my hair at night which has helped a lot. I've read Olive oil works really well too!

Hope that helps! :)

Applying it dry hair worked like a dream, thank you sooo much for the advice! I decreased the amount of BS I used too! So hopefully between that and using some oil on my ends, as per your suggestion, the damage will come to an end :)

Thank you again! I am so happy! haha :)

So glad it worked for you! I'm going to decrease the amount of BS to 1 TSP as well (the comments about that were informative).

Also, I applied pure coconut oil in my hair as an overnight conditioner...and OMG!! my hair look so thick, curly, healthy, and amazingly shiny the next day (no products and no hairdryer). Coconut oil! :)

Happy No Poo! LOL

Can you give some more detail about how you did the coconut oil application? A lot of people report terrible results with coconut oil, which has made me leery of it, but you've obviously found a technique that works...

Thanks for asking, so happy to share! :)

I applied coconut oil on dry hair (I probably put too much the first time...you really don't have to saturate it on so heavily...liberally is fine) then I covered my hair in an old baby blanket (or old t-shirt) before bed, and the following morning I rinsed my hair in warm then cold water. Then, I followed the Curly Girl Method of styling and WOW! Amazing!

Curly Girl Method Styling Video: http://www.jessicurl.com/Demo-Videos-p-6.html
What is really interesting to me is applying hair product on very wet hair and the "plopping method."

This is the coconut oil I have which I bought from Whole Foods (I'm sorry I can't remember how much I paid for it though!):
http://www.gardenoflifeusa.com/ProductsforLife/LIVINGFOODS/ExtraVirginCoconutOil/tabid/680/Default.aspx

Looking back on my journal entry, I actually did use a product on my hair after using CO, but it looked really nice, thick and curly considering I did not blow dry: http://nico-bellissimo.livejournal.com/147429.html?mode=reply

This is my whole No Poo Experiment: (I'm so happy with it after 4 months now!) http://nico-bellissimo.livejournal.com/tag/no%20poo%20experiment

On a side note, coconut oil is a great natural deoderant and lovely on your feet!! Google "Coconut Oil Uses" or "CO Home Rememdies" and you'll be amazed. :)

Thanks so much for this info! I didn't watch the video, but if you're doing CG then I'm guessing you did a conditioner wash the morning after using the coconut oil treatment. I'm trying to be WO right now, so that won't work for me, but it's certainly good to know about!

Oh, this is just splendid! Thank you soooo much, you set everything up so nicely, with the links and all :) You're a doll! Thank you again!

Oh yes, I concur with bookherd! I like to know step-by-step so I don't screw anything up! haha

Also, I heard raw (and preferably virgin) coconut oil was supposed to be good for you hair, so tried looking for some online. I didn't really get anywhere though.. and what I did find was rather expensive =X Where do you buy yours, what brand is it, and about how much does it cost?

Sorry for all the questions, hehe :)

Thanks for asking, so happy to share! :)

I applied coconut oil on dry hair (I probably put too much the first time...you really don't have to saturate it on so heavily...liberally is fine) then I covered my hair in an old baby blanket (or old t-shirt) before bed, and the following morning I rinsed my hair in warm then cold water. Then, I followed the Curly Girl Method of styling and WOW! Amazing!

Curly Girl Method Styling Video: http://www.jessicurl.com/Demo-Videos-p-6.html
What is really interesting to me is applying hair product on very wet hair and the "plopping method."

This is the coconut oil I have which I bought from Whole Foods (I'm sorry I can't remember how much I paid for it though!):
http://www.gardenoflifeusa.com/ProductsforLife/LIVINGFOODS/ExtraVirginCoconutOil/tabid/680/Default.aspx

Looking back on my journal entry, I actually did use a product on my hair after using CO, but it looked really nice, thick and curly considering I did not blow dry: http://nico-bellissimo.livejournal.com/147429.html?mode=reply

This is my whole No Poo Experiment: (I'm so happy with it after 4 months now!) http://nico-bellissimo.livejournal.com/tag/no%20poo%20experiment

On a side note, coconut oil is a great natural deoderant and lovely on your feet!! Google "Coconut Oil Uses" or "CO Home Rememdies" and you'll be amazed. :)

the breakage was most likely initially there and is no longer being weighed down by conditioner, therefore is more evident to you

There's no doubt I had breakage beforehand.. and I could see how the split ends could have been hidden by conditioner, but not the white dots. I also had them prior to starting no-poo, but not to this degree. Most of them are (up to) an inch up the hair shaft from my ends. If I pull at the end of the hair that has this white dot, it simply breaks off. And very easily at that! And I just don't believe that these could have been hidden by conditioner.

I'm having the EXACT same situation as you. I've been no poo for 2 years. Got a haircut a couple months ago because of these terrible split ends and the white dots and now they're back with a vengeance. I think it's too much baking soda. Lots of people have to reacidify or they get horrible itchy scalp. I don't need to do that ever. I just grab some baking soda in my hand and dump it in the bottle I use. I then mix it with hot water and shake till it's mixed. Every 3rd or 4th wash I'll use some vinegar.

But I think while the baking soda makes my hair clean, it's frying it. So thanks for posting this. I'm going to try these tips

I think it is too much baking soda too! Although it obviously hasn't been nearly enough time to see any results from decreasing the amount I use, I just really feel like the cause of these horrible ends are between the excess of BS and not using some kind of oil to help moisturize and condition my ends.

I definitely recommend applying the BS and water to dry hair. I was so impressed with this method! I'm thinking I might even be able to use LESS than 1 teaspoon of BS. Also, I read somewhere to use really hot water (as hot as you can stand it at least) to mix your BS with. Idk if this made a difference for me, but it wouldn't hurt.

Good luck! Hopefully we can get rid of these awful ends :(

One tablespoon of BS to one cup water? To me, that sounds like way too much. Try one teaspoon of BS to one cup water. You want the BS to dissolve completely so you're basically washing your hair with what feels like slimy water. Granted, some people do clean their hair with BS paste. But that's not a good idea if your hair's showing damage.

If you reduce the harshness of your hair wash to the minimum needed, your oiliness will most likely decrease over time (though this may be a very slow process; it took me months to see any change).

I took the advice you gave me, as well as the advice others gave about applying the mixture to dry hair. Very surprisingly, the 1 tsp to 1 cup got my hair nice and slippery! I had started adding more BS to the 1 cup of water because when I applied it to wet hair, I felt almost no slipperiness at all.

Thank you so much! :)

I second the notion of applying the BS solution to DRY hair first. I hop in the shower, scoop my hair into a high ponytail and hold with one hand, keeping the ends bunched up and "covered", then squirt the BS wash onto my roots only. Something about my hair being dry keeps the mix from running everywhere. I only use about 1/2 cup, then work it around on my scalp. When its no longer drippy, I then use both hands to continue scrubbing. Rinse with water, then do the ACV rinse. As the sebum begins to self-regulate, it will start to protect your hair from the polishing action of the BS crystals.
Some posters have also talked about boiling oats in a sock, and using the "milk" as a final conditioning rinse to the ends. I plan to try this after my next trip to the market.

Thank you SO much! I tried applying it to dry hair this morning and it worked so incredibly well! And I only used 1 tsp of BS instead of 1 tbsp, that surprised me the most. My hair felt slipperier than it did with 1 tbsp.

Hmm, that sounds really interesting. I'll have to try it out. Thank you again for your help! Hopefully after my next trim I won't see any more damage starting! :)

i am having the same problem with the split ends with white dots on the ends. i never had split ends before. i thought my hair was pretty healthy. i have only been no poo for 3.5 weeks and my last hair wash was a break through from the oiliness of my transition period. i had started using a boar bristle brush and found the right amount of bs/water ratio that works for my hair. 2 tsp. i rinse with lemon and honey instead of acv. acv seemed to make my hair greasier. i have not done any sort of conditioning. have you had any improvement? or know any natural home conditioning treatments?

I actually have seen an improvement! I'll tell you exactly what I've done.

After my post, I cut at least a few inches off of my hair. After doing that and still seeing the white dots and split ends, I knew it had to be the baking soda or something.. Like I said before, I always had very healthy hair.

So I did tons of research and looked into alternatives. I found that Suave has their Naturals line, which has a coconut conditioner (seems to be the favorite) which is sulfate and -cone free. A lot of people mentioned doing a conditioner-only wash, which I thought would be a nightmare for me.. I never put conditioner on my roots! My hair is already so oily. But I have to say, I am impressed! My hair is super soft and clean afterwards! Really the key is to rinse rinse RINSE. Even when you think you've rinsed your hair out enough.. Rinse again! haha. I usually flip my head over too, just to make sure I rinse the underside well enough.

I will admit though, the next day I definitely have some grease-factor going on.. but I truly believe that's just something with my body. I have an extremely oily complexion.. I use 2 blotting papers for my whole face at least twice a day (sooo gross, I hate it :/) So I don't think I can escape not washing my hair every other day! Oh wellll..

I now do the conditioner-only every other day, and save the baking soda for a sort of "clarifying" wash about once a month.. Maybe once every two weeks if really needed. Even though I decreased the amount of baking soda I was using, I still believe it was the culprit of the white dots and split ends.

Hope this helps! Good luck!! :)

Oh! Also, I followed the advice some of the other users in this community gave me and purchased some raw/pure, extra-virgin coconut oil. I put that on my ends after getting out of the shower and also on the days I don't wash my hair. Seems to really help moisturize my ends!

But beware, a little goes a longgg way. I ended up with greasy-looking ends a couple times, haha.