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New to no poo, question on alternative ways to wash besides BS or Dr. B
kkelli0225 wrote in no_poo
I started no poo on Saturday (prior to that, I was washing every other, or every third day with a no-sulfate shampoo) On Saturday night, I washed with diluted Dr. Bronners (8:1) and rinsed with ACV. While damp, I put in a little coconut oil. On Sunday morning, it was looking very dry, so I put in some Argan oil, which made my hair very greasy. (now I know I have low porosity hair, a strand sat on top of the water for over 12 hours!). On Sunday night, I washed with an egg and then rinsed with ACV. On Monday, I brushed thoroughly in sections with my BBB (greasy on scalp, dry on ends). Today (Tuesday) it is looking greasy, but the ends are still dry. I plan to brush again tonight, and wash on Wedn night (I have a meeting on Thursday, and I can’t look like a grease ball). I was going to make aloe honey shampoo. My plan is to put most of the shampoo (reserving some) on the ends and length of my hair and let it sit on my hair for a few minutes while I am in the steamy shower. Then I am going to take the reserved amount and add a little of the diluted Dr. B. and scrub that on my scalp to get rid of the greasiness.

So I have a couple of questions, will adding the Dr. B to my scalp cancel any of the moisture effects of the aloe/honey shampoo?

I would like to get to where I am using alternatives to Dr. B (most of the time) to removing the grease, maybe adding a drop of castor oil to the DIY shampoo instead? Applesauce? Lemon juice?

What else removes the grease? I am not sure if my hair really liked the egg wash, so I would not want to do that regularly.

Is it bad to change my washing ingredients so often? (honey / aloe one wash, applesauce the next)
Thanks!

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I'm new at this, too, but I've also been reading and collecting data like crazy.

I've heard from several people using egg-wash that, at first, their hair didn't like it, but by the third or fourth try it was working for them, so don't give up too soon. Some people use the whole egg but most recommend only the egg yolk. Oh, and there is such a thing as too much protein in your hair, so be careful how often you egg wash. Symptoms are frizzy or stiff hair.

As for alternatives to Dr. B, I use castile soap that I converted at home from a bar to a liquid. (You can buy it in liquid form, but it's expensive because it's super concentrated, which isn't practical for people just starting out and trying to see what does and doesn't work for them.)
http://frugalberry.com/make-your-own-liquid-castile-soap/
long vs short method
http://www.vintagekidsmodernworld.com/2013/01/diy-turn-solid-castile-bar-soap-into-liquid-castile-soap/

Honey is supposed to be a good moisturizing cleanser but it can leave fine hair limp because it is too heavy (or your mixture is too concentrated).
Applesauce is a mild degreaser that doesn't strip hair of natural oil.

As long as you moisturize after you degrease (with Dr. B or whatever), your hair should stay moisturized - provided you didn't overuse the drying cleanser and under-use the moisturizer.

Whatever you use, remember to:
"Scrub harder and rinse longer. The reason shampoos and soaps are effective is because they make it easier for water to cut through dirt and rinse it away. That's what all that stuff in the lather is doing: water's job, just much more effectively. When you take out the foaming agents and lather, that means you have to work a bit harder at getting stuff out."
That's a quote from someone on this site. (I should really find out who....)

Now, I am very new at this, but I don't think it is bad to change ingredients often. Several experienced no-poo-ers have written that each no poo session (wash, rinse, scrub, soak, brush, dip, whatever) should be a response to what needs fixing in your hair right then, not just following your routine because "rinse Q" is what is *supposed* to come next. That said, sometimes it's a certain combination of wash-rinse, or an over/under-use of an ingredient that causes a mixture to fail. Changing too often can prevent you from realizing which ingredients or combinations work, and which don't, or which ingredients might work if you just tweaked the proportion a little.

Okay. Now I have a question of my own, since you just experienced this. I also have super-low porosity hair and last night put too much castor oil in my hair. It's a total greaseball. (hehe. I love that term.) It's oily and I brush and brush but it doesn't really untangle.
HOW DO I GET IT OUT?!

Edited at 2014-10-10 02:55 pm (UTC)

oh, i had a VERY bad experience with castor oil. I thought i would do a hot oil treatment, put a ton on, wrapped in towel, warmed with heating pad. could NOT get it out! i tried dr bronners, then the sulfate free shampoo. washed and washed. then i was desperate, i eneded up using dish washing liquid! it ruined my hair for 2 weeks. it started breaking off all over the place. i don't know if it was the castor oil, or dish washing liquid. so, i can't really give you any advice, except don't use dishwashing liquid! did you try an egg?

Ugh! Yeah. I used egg yolk among other things.

Here's the link to where I commented on my question about how I got it out.
http://no-poo.livejournal.com/655079.html#comments

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